Conservative Homosexuals and Christians

If you, like me, grew up in a conservative Christian home and Church, you will have a particular view of Homosexuals. You may be moving from this view, but it is the view where you came from.

You may have heard pastors preach fiery sermons on the homosexual lifestyle, and you may have heard opinions that they “should all be locked up” or even that they “deserve the death penalty”! And this from professing Christians! I have heard some proclaim that this is “the single worst sin one can commit”, with the possible exception of murder! Interestingly, there is quite a lot of homosexual molestation that goes on in such institutions, and I speak from personal experience!

Your pastor may have preached sermons on Sodom, and other places in Scripture where homosexual activity is frowned upon.

He was right to do this.

Such sermons, however, need to be salted with the salt of the teachings of Jesus Christ. We don’t live in the age of Israel, we live in the age of grace, and Christians need to view other sinners through the lens of Scripture… all Scripture! Christians are NOT under the Old Testament law, but under the law of the Spirit.

We ought to remember that we, ourselves, deserve the same penalty they deserve, and if God has been merciful to us, we ought to be merciful to others.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. Matthew 7:1-5

These days most would stop at the first verse, but Jesus didn’t stop there did He?

We have to read and understand all of Scripture, and not take verses from here and there out-of-context. It is certainly not wrong to point to the sins of others with the intent to show them their sinfulness before God, so that we might lead them to the light of the Gospel, and to eternal life in Jesus Christ.

We are not here, however, to build the kingdom of God on earth! This has been one of the huge mistakes of many professing Christians, both Catholic and Protestant!

The intent of the Old Testament law was to build the nation of Israel, in the age where Israel was receiving the Scriptures directly from God, and the standard therein is God’s holy, perfect standard. It was never God’s intent that Israel would keep His law perfectly, and thus to earn Salvation. Never!

No, the Law was given to condemn the human race, completely! The intent was that our conscience would be pricked, and we would cry out to God for deliverance, and mercy!

There are some 40 laws which call-for the death penalty in the Law of Moses. Things from murder, adultery, homosexuality, and speaking back to your parents all call for the death penalty!

Well, is the law wrong? No! Every one of those sins does indeed deserve the death penalty! Yes, even talking back to one’s parents!

Did God intend that it should all be carried out? No! As a parent, when your child talks back to you, do you remember when you did that to your parents? You did, and if you can’t remember, it is because your memory is faulty. So if God was merciful to you, then you ought to be merciful to your children!

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Matthew 7:2

When Joseph found out that Mary was pregnant with Jesus, he had a choice; he could have her put to death for adultery, or he could divorce her quietly. Think about it; she claimed that she was pregnant by the Holy Spirit, and it was a virgin conception! A few women have tried this in history, but this was the first time it had actually happened! Joseph would have been completely within his rights to have her stoned, or to at least divorce her.

Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. Matthew 1:19

So what does it mean that Joseph was a “just man”? It means exactly what I am talking about here; that Joseph knew that he too was a sinner, and that he too deserved the eternal death penalty! Being a “just man” however, he was willing to act mercifully towards his wife, because he too desired mercy from God!

This teaching is there throughout Scripture; When David’s ten concubines slept with Absalom, he too could have had them put to death, but he remembered what He had done to Uriah and Bathsheba, and so he acted mercifully towards them, and actually fed, clothed and sheltered them the rest of their lives! (II Samuel 20:3)

God had actually embedded this teaching in the law, but those with hard hearts could not see it! He set a trap for them!

When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. Deuteronomy 24:1

The phrase “come to pass” means an indefinite period of time. Many pastors today say that this only pertains to their wedding night, but it does not! This could be ten years later, and the uncleanness spoken of is sexual infidelity! God was essentially giving them a choice; either you can insist on the letter of the law; death, and receive the letter yourself, or you can practice mercy and receive mercy yourself!

This was Joseph’s understanding, and he chose mercy, and life!

One pastor told me that “God couldn’t put David to death, since he was the king”, as if to say that “God really does want adulterers put to death, just not in the case of David”! Well, is God a respecter of persons? Of course not! If God really wanted David dead, after adultery and murder, he is powerful enough to carry out the penalty Himself!

God was communicating something to you and I, in these cases;

For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. Hosea 6:6

Many Christians point to Romans 1, to show that God is not pleased with homosexuality. They are correct to do this! This chapter is a very clear indictment of this type of behaviour.

Christians ought not to ever celebrate anyone’s sin! We ought to expose it for what it is…in love!  Accepting their sin is not love!

Did you know that there were former homosexuals, and gays in the early Christian Church? Paul very clearly says so in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11;

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

The two types of homosexuals we still have with us today are listed in verse 9; regular homosexuals are the “effeminate” and the militant Gays are the “abusers of themselves with mankind” (See the Pink Swastika). Notice also that he does not state that their sin is worse than that of idol worshippers, or covetous persons! Don’t forget that covetousness is simply looking at the possessions of others, and wanting them for yourself! Ouch!

But thank God he wrote verse 11! Even gays and covetous persons can be saved, and washed by the blood of the Lamb of God!

You see the only sin that can’t be forgiven is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, all other sins can be forgiven!

So Christians have no business advocating for the death penalty. That is not our job! When Jesus comes and rules with a rod of iron, He very well might put to death those in gross sins, but that is a different era, that is His decision, and being God He is free to carry-out God’s will in that way.  You and I, however, are not God. Nor are we here to clean-up society!

In the mean time our job as Christians, is to see to it that everyone hears the gospel! That’s it! We are not called to be political activists, although its not wrong to vote your conscience. It is not even wrong for Christians to hold public office, but that is not our purpose in being here!

Then we have the phenomenon of Milo Yiannopolous, an outspoken conservative homosexual activist.

I have a son who is very interested in the ideas of the alternative right. I see him watching Ben Shapiro and Milo Yiannopoulos, and the truth is that there is a lot of truth in what these gentlemen say. There is a lot of logical common-sense here!

I would not say to my son “Don’t listen to what he has to say, he’s gay” or “Don’t listen to what he has to say, he’s Jewish”. No! What I say to my son, and to you, is “listen to what they say and filter it with the Word of God”. If they say something that it true and good then we can agree with them on that, but when they say something wrong we can disagree, without becoming enemies.

We can and should do this without endorsing their errors! I would never say to Milo that his homosexuality is OK with God. It isn’t! Neither would I say to Ben Shapiro that he could get to Heaven by keeping the Law. He can’t! Jesus Christ is the only way to God for any one!

Ultimately, if these gentlemen die without Jesus Christ they will be lost forever in the lake of fire! God Himself is a conservative, but being a conservative is not what God requires to be saved! What a tragedy to be so right about so many things and to still lose everything!

As far as we can tell, Daniel and his three friends, were the only true believers in Nebuchadnezzar’s government. Did that stop them from doing their jobs? No! Did any of these men say “I can’t work with that guy, he’s a pagan!”? No! They just did their jobs, and they did what was right, they took a stand for the truth, and they trusted God to protect them. And He did just that!
For further reading see http://www.thepinkswastika.com/

 

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About dknezacek

An average, ordinary guy. Author, husband, father, pilot, aircraft builder, test pilot, machinist, artist, just ordinary stuff that lots of people do. Don't forget bible student. Dan's passion is bible study, especially including the End Times prophecies.
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2 Responses to Conservative Homosexuals and Christians

  1. Pingback: Milo’s Controversy | housetops

  2. Brent says:

    Hi Dan,
    Like the above pinged blog, this is a most difficult subject because the natural right compassion true Christians feel to reach out to all with God’s love, is being manipulated by powerful principalities and powers who are using the LGBT agenda as a great weapon against mankind.
    I will only add a link to an excellent documentary by a Russian Christian film crew promoted on nicholson1968’s YouTube channel. “The LGBT agenda: Sodom Documentary”.
    It shows how Western governments and their NGO think tanks and proxies are waging war against God, family and truth itself.
    This is for those of strong faith and not the faint of heart.

    Watch and pray true saints,

    Brent.

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