On being “turned back” and Ezekiel’s war

I was watching J.D.Farag, of Calvary Chapel Kaneohe, the other day when an amazing thought hit me.

He was talking about the Trump/Putin meeting and its prophetic significance, in relation to the Gog and Magog war.

No doubt the presence of Russia in Syria is prophetically significant; It is certainly true that Russia, Turkey and Iran will be a part of an invading coalition of nations when the Ezekiel 38-39 war occurs, but I am not as certain of its imminence as is pastor Farag, nor Amir Tsarfati.  Both of them seem to think the Psalm 83 war has already occurred, but as I have already noted, not all of the conditions of the Psalm have been met as yet.

Anyhow, Pastor Farag was reading from Ezekiel 38 when something hit me;

  2 Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,

  3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:

  4 And I WILL TURN THEE BACK, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Ezekiel 38:2-4

The phrase that caught my attention is the one that says “And I will turn thee back”.  You can’t go “back” or “backward” toward Israel, unless you have been there before.  Now the Russian armies will not have been in Israel before this attack, but today they are in Syria, right on Israel’s doorstep!

What could this mean but that Russia will leave Syria, for some reason, and their leaving will be viewed with relief by the people of Israel, but then something sent by God will cause them to change their minds and go back in the direction they had just come from!

A lot of prophecy scholars think that Russia will attack from their current base in Syria, but I think they will participate in a surprise attack after leaving and giving Israel the impression that they are not interested.

The other time Scripture uses the same phraseology is when Sennacherib, king of Assyria came up and camped against Jerusalem in 2 Kings and Isaiah 37;

Because thy rage against me and thy tumult is come up into mine ears, therefore I will put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest. II Kings 19:28

Because thy rage against me, and thy tumult, is come up into mine ears, therefore will I put my hook in thy nose, and my bridle in thy lips, and I will turn thee back by the way by which thou camest. Isaiah 37:29

In this case God “turned them back” by kiling 185,000 of the enemy soldiers, and the remnant returned to Assyria.  Sennacherib himself was killed by his own sons two years later.

Using the principle of comparing Scripture with Scripture, we see that for the phrase “turn thee back” to be used in an actual attack on Israel the armies in question must be moving away from Israel first!

So, look for the Russian armies to leave the Middle East, before they turn around, and with a large company of allies, come back and attack Israel in a surprise attack!

I generally enjoy J.D. Farag’s Prophecy Updates, and consider him a brother, but this time as he went on, I realized that he has missed the magnitude of this attack.  These people assume that Turkey is Magog or maybe Russia, and that Gomer, and Togarmah are also Turkey.

  5 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:

  6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.

The truth is that there are descendants of Magog, Gomer and Togarmah, living in Turkey and Russia, but these are not the only places where the descendants of these men live today. Togarmah is actually one of three sons of Gomer, Noah’s grandson.  This man was the father not only of Turkey, but of the Turkmen tribes which are scattered from Turkey all the way to the Western province of China, the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region! (The Uyghur’s are a Turkmen tribe!)  You can certainly find many of them in places like Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, and Kazakhstan as well!  So don’t expect these nations to sit-out this war!

The other two sons of Gomer are Riphath, and Ashkenaz.  Riphath was the father of the Celtic tribes; the Welsh language is known as Gomerad, or Kemerad, which contains the name of the patriarch of this tribe, Gomer.  The Scotts and Irish are also descendants of Riphath, although the Scots are also mixed with descendants of Magog! The inhabitants of Brittany in France are also Celts as are the Catalans in Spain.

Gomer’s son Ashkenaz is the father of the Germanic tribes.  These tribes can be found in places like Germany, Austria, France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and ENGLAND!  The English are descendants of three German tribes that crossed the channel in the 600s AD, the Anglos, Saxons, and Jutes.

When Ezekiel wrote “Gomer and all his bands”, he certainly meant western Europe from Ireland in the west to Austria in the east, and Scandinavia in the north to France and Spain in the south!  No doubt this is why Islam is making great headway in these nations today.

The Czechs, and many other Eastern European nations, are descendants of Magog.

I find it interesting that the ancient histories of the Scots claim that they are descendants of Magog. My wife is of a mixed Cornish/Welsh and Scottish heritage.  She and I recently had our DNA tested, and the results were somewhat surprising; She has about 9% Eastern European DNA in her, while I, with my Czech/English background have 6% Eastern European DNA!

This appears to be confirmation that we are both descendants of Magog, as well as Gomer!  This would also indicate that Magog is the father of the eastern Europeans.

In fact the ancient histories indicate that Magog’s descendants occupy Eastern Europe from around Hungary in the South to Finland in the north, and from Georgia in the east, to the Czech Republic in the west.

All of these nations will be allied with Russia, Turkey, and Iran when they attack Israel!  This will not be some small local conflict, and I don’t think Israel will be alone as the target either!  They will have partners, the Southern Europeans, who will also suffer during this war.  The bible says nothing about this part of the attack, but please note that the Southern Europeans, descendants of Gomer’s brother Javan, are not included in the account and neither is the one last brother Madai!

I guess most prophecy teachers think it would be preposterous to claim that this war would include all of these nations, but it will.  If you see a war without them, you are NOT looking at Ezekiel’s war!

When Ezekiel wrote “Gomer and all his bands” he meant all the nations whose armies are mainly Gomerites, and when he said “the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands” he not only meant Turkey, but that all the nations of Togarmah’s descendants will be involved, from Turkey in the west to the borders of China in the east, and it just might be possible that the western province of China, Xinjiang, might participate as well!  Even today there is a separatist party in Xinjiang, called the Turkistan Islamic Party. Will they succeed with their wish?  I don’t know.  But I do know that it is suicidal for nations to tolerate Islam in their midst!  They will have representation in the armies of Ezekiel’s war!

All of the nations noted in Ezekiel 38 are indeed moving toward a position of hostility with Israel, but they are not ready to join Russia in that attack just yet.

No!  First there will be an attack of the Arab nations against Israel, and after Israel is forced to use nuclear weapons, just to survive, a part of Europe will broker a peace treaty between Israel and the Arabs.  In this agreement, Israel will give up her nuclear weapons in exchange for an iron-clad guarantee of security.  They will allow themselves to be disarmed on the promise that Southern Europe will come to their aid in the event of an attack. All the Arab nations who have joined in the Psalm 83 war will also be disarmed in this deal, and both they and Israel will be dependent on a group of nations in Southern Europe for their security!

This is the Psalm 83 war, and its aftermath.  This peace treaty will identify the European leader as the Antichrist, in the eyes of many who have a limited understanding of biblical prophecy, or an understanding based on the popular western prophecy teachers interpretation of these passages.

This will be the set-up for the war of Ezekiel 38-39.  This peace treaty will actually work for a time.  This is also why the Arab nations, identified as Sheba, Dedan, and Tarshish, will not join in the attack but rather protest it! They too have benefited from the peace with Israel, and have prospered.  And don’t forget they will have no weapons to join the attack anyway!

This is also why the group of nations who have guaranteed Israel’s security will also be targeted in the Gog/Magog attack; If they have guaranteed Israel’s security then their armed forces, and capital city, must be neutralized when the Northern European armies go after Israel’s wealth!  Will that capital city be Rome?  I believe this is the best answer posed by this puzzle.  This is the answer that fits in best with the bible’s prophecies!

Will the leader of the Southern European Union be the Antichrist?  No!  Satan always has his counterfeits, and that is all that is going on here; The Southern European Union, and its leaders, a president and the pope, are merely decoys being set-up to be destroyed, to distract attention from the real Antichrist, who will come from the tiny nation just to the east of Jerusalem, and not from Europe at all!

What better way to put people off their guard about the Antichrist, than to  make them believe the Antichrist is dead!  If these prophecy teachers don’t wake up soon, they will end up participating in a great deception!

Here is Pastor Farag talking about the End Times events.   He is correct that we are close, but we’re not as close as he thinks.

also see;

The Table of Nations; http://www.soundchristian.com/man/


About dknezacek

An average, ordinary guy. Author, husband, father, pilot, aircraft builder, test pilot, machinist, artist, just ordinary stuff that lots of people do. Don't forget bible student. Dan's passion is bible study, especially including the End Times prophecies.
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