The Catalans and the Gog and Magog war

In my studies on the Gog/Magog war, of Ezekiel 38-39, I discovered that this war is much bigger than most imagine. No doubt it will be referred to as World War 3, after the fact. Many will even refer to it as Armageddon, but it is actually not a part of the Tribulation period at all.

With the current Russian cooperation with Iran, many prophecy teachers are teaching that the Gog/Magog war is imminent. This is incorrect.

While it is true that Russia (Meschech and Tubal) and Iran (Persia) will be a part of the Ezekiel 38-39 war, they do not represent the whole attacking army.

The attacking army of the Gog/Magog war will come from the British Isles in the west, all the way to the borders of China in the east, and down to Turkey and Iran in the south. Other nations in the south will include Sudan (part of ancient Ethiopia), Ethiopia, and Libya.

Conspicuous in their absence in the account, are the Arab nations surrounding Israel. This is because the Arab nations like Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen, Kuwait, the U.A.E., Qatar, and Bahrain will have made peace with Israel long before this war begins. They will attack Israel several years earlier, during the Psalm 83 war, and being soundly beaten, they will sue for peace with Israel.

Israel may be instrumental in forming a super-nation of the defeated Arab nations after the Psalm 83 war.

The Arabs will not want the attack, but are listed as nations which protest the invasion; Sheba, Dedan and Tarshish.  These names are traditionally listed as Arab entities, and it will be the same during this war.  Tarshish is likely the Syrian port of Tartous, which will become the capital after the destruction of Damascus.

This is clear, but Ezekiel states that the attacking armies will include “Gomer, and all his bands”, and specifically designates Togarmah. Gomer, however, had three sons, Ashkenaz, Togarmah, and Riphath.

I have discussed before how Ashkenaz was the father of the Germanic tribes, which includes Germany, Austria, Holland, Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and the English. There can be no doubt that the Gog/Magog war will include all of these nations.

Togarmah was the father of the Turkic tribes who are spread from Turkey in the west to the Uyghurs in western China, and include representation in nations like Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Azerbaijan.

Riphath was the father of the Celtic tribes which includes Armenia, Ireland, Scotland, the Welsh, the Bretons, or Gauls, and the Catalans of Spain.

I didn’t say much about the Catalans before, chiefly because I had not researched these people. In view of the current Catalan push for independence from Spain, I thought I had better take a closer look at these people.

Hundreds of thousands of Catalans fill the streets demanding independence, before a regional election billed as an indirect vote on breaking away from Spain. Photograph: Lluis Gene/AFP/Getty Images

The Catalan people of Spain are descendants of ancient Celtic tribes who entered the area around 1500 BC. Over time their language has been heavily influenced by Latin, and other local languages, but make no mistake that these people are descendants of Noah’s great-grandson Riphath. The prophecy concerns the ancestry of people more so than their languages.

The Ezekiel account lists the tribes by their patriarchs or ancient tribal names, and Gomer’s brother Javan is another who is conspicuous by his absence. Javan was the father of the southern Europeans, including the Greeks, and Italians. I am not sure where Spain fits in, but it is quite clear that the Spanish and the Catalans have different ancestry. The Catalans of Spain, and the Gauls of France, are much closer to each other than they are to the others in their respective nations.

Would God list the Spanish as descendants of Javan, and include them with the Greeks and Italians? I think so.

As the European Union breaks-up who will go in which direction? Will the borders of nations be split with parts going with the north and others going with the south? It is looking that way!

I am convinced that the Southern Europeans will form their own economic union, and the core of this union will be Greece and Italy, I am equally convinced that this Southern European Union will consist of ten nations.

These ten nations are NOT the ten toes of Nebuchadnezzar’s dream (Daniel 2), nor the ten nations of Revelation 17:12. Note that Revelation 17:12 states that these ten nations have not received a kingdom as yet. These ten nations will NOT be old nations, but new super-nations created during the End Times, and they will encompass the whole earth, not merely the Mediterranean sea!

And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”

No, a ten-nation Southern European Union will be Satan’s decoy for prophecy lovers! Prophecy lovers who will not accept the whole Word of God will be drawn-in to the deception, and when the leaders of the Southern European Union make a self-defense treaty with Israel after the Psalm 83 war, they will be identified by many as the “Antichrist” and the “False Prophet”.

That agreement will be the prototype for the real Antichrist’s treaty, but the first signers will NOT be the Antichrist and False Prophet, just patsies who take the fall for the real thing!  Once a treaty is signed, the armies of Gog and Magog will have to destroy Rome simultaneously if they hope to defeat Israel!

It thus follows that Satan is planning to destroy these decoys, in Rome, during the war of Gog and Magog, as a way of diverting attention away from the real False Prophet and Antichrist. After all, who would look for the Antichrist, if he is already dead?

So, where will the Catalans be during the Gog/Magog war? They will be allied with the Gog/Magog armies, attacking the Southern European Union, on their way to Israel!

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/11/catalonia-pro-independence-rally-barcelona-spain

https://www.rt.com/news/315070-catalan-independence-rally-barcelona/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalans

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11179914/Why-does-Catalonia-want-independence-from-Spain.html

 

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5 Responses to The Catalans and the Gog and Magog war

  1. Matthias says:

    Hello Dan,

    thanks for that article. Nice work. You bring prophecy to life. Today I would like to make four points. Some are a little bit off-topic but still in accordance with your overarching interests, I guess.

    1) Refering to your article it was an interesting coincidence that the prophet Jona as well as Paulus had once made plans to travel to spain but were kept from doing so in a violently way. Nevertheless the messages of both went to Spain and far beyond with no need to progressing in a linear way. So for succeeding it can be beneficial to interrupt all those too linear planings. Instead a really good message, especially if some dramatic incidents are associated with, will take care of it’s own, once a certain “critical mass” of people are following.

    2) Because I do know that you are also interested in those prophecies regarding men, women and marriage, I would like to share a little new insight. As someone who believes in scripture and valueing highly especially the teachings and doctrine of Apostle Paul, I would like to dare to “proof him wrong” in a minor aspect of his teachings, but in a playful way, like children sometimes like to struggle against the father or much older brother. 😉 Paul was not married. He mentioned that he does prefer to please God instead of pleasing a wife. Here, I think, is actually an error hidden, even if judged on the doctrine of his own teachings. When Adam ever was busy with bringing his own life in line, in order to please Eve? Never according to the Bible. Eve was Adam’s assistant, in terms of daily work, raising the children, althougj in romantical and sexual regard. Nothing more, nothing less. Whenever was God making compromises in order to please Israel? Never. Israel was God’s wife and God was Israel’s Adonai. What was the relationship between Abraham and Sarah. Did he see his life’s purpose in serving and pleasing Sahra or was Sahra seeing her life’s purpose in serving Abraham, despite of her own noblesse. But OK, there are counter examples: Simson wanted to please and serve Delila and the old King Salomon loved to please his 1,000+ wifes and other loved ones. 😉 Well, these counter examples proof my point even more. I like romantics and sensuality, but the whole concept of relationships based on perpetual mutual pleasing and seduction is …(don’t know, is there any biblical word for “bullshit”, I guess the prophets have used some strong vocubulary too lol).

    3) In Germany, people who are influenced by a man whose name is Jim Staley are rather active recently. I think, it’s a messianic movement, I’m a Lutherian, but I do like them anyway, because they highly value Israel. They clearly positioning themselves against the Adventists, however they do also obey the Sabath. I don’t do so. And they definitely fall short in prophecy. They do expect the next war to be Gog/Magog and falsely think Gog/ Mogog would be the Arab nations. I know that many of them love Jesus and proclaim him as the Son of God, not only the Messiah, but they seem me to be highly in danger getting trapped into the strawmen scenarios delivered by Lucifer/Satan.

    4) To get really nice scientific/ mathematical inspirations about the texture of the universes [sic] I would highly recommend to check out the youtube series “10thdim”. It’s made not by a Christian, but the guy featuring this is absolutely brilliant. He may have no idea how much most of what he is saying is resonating with God’s word. Taken with a grain of salt of course. His approach can not be any substitute for personal salvation. And an other word of a warning: He is a terrible singer, who loves to make music at the end of his presentations. Absolutely terrible. It’s not only your perception, he actually is that bad. loool

    However, I would strongly suggest to check the content out. All the best. Matt.

    • dknezacek says:

      Hi Matt,

      On a social media page I am on, someone was doing a sermon on Jonah as a failure as a missionary. My response was that if willingness to go was the criterion then Jonah was a failure, but if getting his message out is important, then Jonah was a resounding success!

      As for my interest in marriage, it is because the bible says a lot about marriage, only some of which is accepted by Christians. I believe Adam ate the fruit because he loved his wife more than God, and chose death for himself rather than lose her. It is in the same way that Jesus became the second Adam, choosing death for Himself to save his bride.

      Being divorced, as a young Christian I wanted to know what the bible says about divorce and remarriage before I married again, although the whole truth did not dawn on me until several years later.

      Even still later I realized that the bible’s teaching on polygamy/polygyny has an application in the identity of the Antichrist in Daniel 11:36-37; “And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. 37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.”

      The common Christian teaching that polygamy is wrong will lead many to accept the Beast as a “man of God”, simply because he is an Arab who opposes polygamy. This is in contrast to the bible’s contention that the early millennial reign will have many families of one man and seven women!

      1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach. 2 In that day shall the branch of the LORD be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the earth shall be excellent and comely for them that are escaped of Israel. Isaiah 4:1-2

      Jesus, the Branch, will have regard for the desire of women (Isaiah 4:1), but the Antichrist will not (Daniel 11:37)!

      I used to attend a messianic congregation, and some of them there did recommend Jim Staley, but I think he is in error. He is a Judaizer who wants to bring Christians under the Old Testament law. I can’t accept this. Eventually I had to leave that congregation. It is one thing to participate in Passover celebrations, since Christ is our passover, but it is something else entirely to teach that Christians need to follow Torah!

      I will check out the video you recommended.

      Thanks,

      Dan

  2. Matthias says:

    Hello Dan,

    I enjoyed to read your answer.

    Well, I guess Jona was actually more willingly to sacrifice himself for his people than Adam was in regard to Eve. Which is a pity for our self-image as men. 😉 I heard this interpretation about a good intention Adam might have had while eating the fruit. Honestly, I can not find much evidence for this in the scripture. Rather I got the impression that Adam was the one who started the “blame game”, blaming Eve and God for the bad things happened (interestingly, he does NOT mention the snake, in contrary to Eve).

    Giving one’s own life in order to save your wife would be unquestionably a good thing to do. It is a different thing I would actually question: The myth that it is the task of a husband to please his wife and as well the myth that the wife should try to seduce her husband 24/ 7. It would be an uphill battle for both, hardly to achieve a win-win situation and an extremely unstable kind of relationship.

    Whereas a woman as assistant and let’s say “beloved co-worker” of the man is in my opinion what should be teached. Doing it this way a lot of delusional thinking and suffering in young guys could be prevented. Young lads who watched too many Disney movies as little boys and who are expected to marry before they even became men.

    By the way, I agree with you regarding Staley, that he is not teaching the Evangelium according to Apostle Paul, nor according to Martin Luther by the way. It’s not your and my way to God what he is teaching. But honestly even Petrus and John were not able to grasp the fullest meaning of the Evangelium of Christ Jesus, the degree it was given and revealed to Paul. Eleven of the twelve apostles were obeying and applying the mosaic law strictly and were also expecting their peers to do so. I guess, that the messianic christians have a different role and task in the end times than the ecclesia of Paul. Both will have their reunion later anyway, but f.e. Paul on the one side and Barnabas/ Mark on the other side also had become separated and followed kind of seemingly different paths, but only for a short time span. If a group of believers is proclaiming the man Jesus to be not only the Messias but the Son of the living God, then – in my opinion – minimum we can do, is not to judge before the time. 😉 But of course it’s OK to point out that there are some relevant shortcomings and maybe even traps in Staleys teachings.

    Best regards

    Matt

  3. Edgars says:

    Another interesting option why would Paul be a single man.

    “Howbeit we may not give them wives of our daughters: for the children of Israel have sworn, saying, Cursed be he that giveth a wife to Benjamin.” (Judges 21:18 KJV)

    “I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.” (Romans 11:1 KJV)

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